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Season 11 · Episode 256

Part of Genesis

Coram Deo - Genesis 1 - 11, Week 8

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Overview

This week the conversation returns to Noah: is the account an ancient myth, or a history people have claimed to leave traces of? After talking about reports of ark remnants, the hosts come back to Noah's immediate, lasting obedience, and to staying in Scripture instead of letting other voices take first place. They slow down in Genesis 8, then talk about making room for God, sharpening one another, and letting obedience look like action or, sometimes, rest.

Takeaways

  1. Take the account seriously, then talk about obedience — The hosts ask whether the Noah story is myth, then share historical reports of remnants people have claimed to see. The point is to take the account seriously, then talk about obedience.
  2. Noah's obedience was immediate, and it lasted — Noah did not stall for a week to think it over. He spent more than a hundred years building with hand tools, and he kept at it even when friends questioned him.
  3. Let Scripture be the filter, not an afterthought — Read God's word first. Self-help and extra devotionals are not a substitute. Filter everything through Scripture, and they mention a simple 5-5-5 practice of prayer and time in the word.
  4. Slow down in Genesis 8 — After talking about shutting out the noise, they linger on Genesis 8: God remembered Noah, the waters receded, and the dove came back with a freshly plucked olive leaf. Forty days can feel huge to us; they ask listeners to get out of their own way and sit with the words.
  5. Make room for God, and let obedience take more than one shape — Late in the episode the title comes up: Coram Deo. Get out of your own way, let God teach and navigate, and be sharpened by other believers. Obedience can mean sharing one another's burdens and being salt and light, or, on another day, resting when you wanted to be busy.

Scripture

  • Genesis 6
  • Genesis 6:9-10
  • Genesis 8:1
  • Genesis 8:6
  • Proverbs 27:17
  • Luke 6:46
  • John 8
  • John 14:15
  • Galatians 6:2
  • Hebrews 11
  • Hebrews 12:1

Reflection questions

  1. Where are you delaying something you already know God has asked of you, and what would ordinary, immediate obedience look like this week?
  2. When you open Scripture, are you rushing for a useful takeaway, or can you sit with a single line the way they lingered on "God remembered Noah"?
  3. Who might God be asking you to come alongside and share a burden with—and when might obedience actually mean resting instead of doing more?
Read the transcript

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  1. 00:00

    this podcast is dedicated at a proposition that every christian should be a constant and devoted reader of the primary business of the church ministry is to lead foster and urge people in this life-changing habit We are studying Genesis 1-11 and we've had so many amazing discussions. This is episode 256 and what stood out, gentlemen? We're talking about it recently, but he's talking about I'm wondering why it has to be discovered there are so many people that have actually seen Remnants of the I don't know if anybody listening is aware of that or a few folks are aware of that? There's definitely been a lot on the news that they've been able to discover more remnants So we ask, what is fact or fiction? People say, is this an ancient myth? Because a lot of people like to tribute stories in the Bible to myths. Is it Is it real? I'm just going to give you some facts because I like to do research and so In case you didn't know that by now listening to me, but 275 BC, he was a Babylonian historian And he wrote, but of Around 75 AD, Josephus, now some of you may be more familiar with

  2. 02:51

    The remains of the ark are to this day to be seen in the mountains An elderly Armenian man in America said that as a boy He admitted on his deathbed that In 1876, distinguished British statesman and author Viscount James Bryce A four-foot long piece of hand-tooled timber at the height of more than 13,000 feet And it goes on and on More contemporary, during World War II, two pilots saw And it goes on and on There's a lot of witnesses Bible scholars believe Noah 977 trips to Home Depot during the ark construction

  3. 05:16

    Here's another interesting thing. I don't know if you know that pitch is a petroleum product? Because pitch is a petroleum product in what most people think is the Middle East, John D. Rockefeller, most people know that name Anyway, you know, you start to think about, okay, what is true, what But there is so much documentation, and I know you got into the archaeology And maybe there's some of our listeners who are intrigued by archaea There is so much archaeological proof of the Bible, but we're talking about Noah And the ark, it seems to be pretty real to me, folks, based on people seeing it Unless, unless all these people independently from 275 BC up until 1950 So I don to know what you out there think, I'd be interested, but it seems to me to be pretty true The fact of the matter is though, we were talking about obedience, to bring it back to, and we were talking about immediate obedience So Noah did not question God, he didn't say, well how am I going to do this? You mentioned that Babylon Bee, you know, funny thing there about the Home Depot He didn't have power tools, he didn't have saws and planes that he could

  4. 07:09

    Everything was hand tools at best, and he took a hundred years to do It really wasn't a ship, it was more like a, I don't know, a shoe box based on the dimensions What was it, like 450 feet long, 150 feet high, 75 feet wide, this thing was meant to float That's all it was meant to do, and it did, and it ended up floating on Mt. Ararat I I'll stop there, I just want to talk about obedience, I don't know if anybody has comments on that about Were we in that realm when it comes to Obeid, doing the things that we know are right Here's Noah, I commanded him to He did it, immediately, no questions asked, can I have a week to think about it, can I have a day to think about it No, it was immediate The way that I was raised in the church made me believe that, well it was true that Yes, God's word is final, but that it was the only thing that I should be reading Literally everything else that I'm studying is the devil, which Yes, it is so important for those who are listening to read God's word first There's a lot of self-help based around different devotions and based around prayer and certain scriptures But pray and open up God's word and ask God and the Holy Spirit to guide you And ask you to make it relevant As we always.

  5. 09:54

    What we've been able to dive into this. One of the most wealthy men in the entire world made a discovery of oil something that made him rich from a verse in the Bible He filtered that thought through the Bible It's just super important to filter everything through God's word If

  6. 11:31

    The important thing to all this is staying in God's word Reading the Bible, having that relationship with him That brings us back to that, you know, I know we mentioned it a lot, but that 5-5-5 challenge I mean it's such a simple thing and it's 15 minutes throughout the Just take, you know, five minutes of just praying to God, speaking to God, talking to God For what. What you want and thanking And thanking God for what you have and And then, you know, taking five minutes of reading God's word Just something, just pick a story in the Bible, just pick a book, pick a verse Depending on what you're looking for, I mean, just in this past month, month and a half I've been going Just help me with And just people talking to God, if you're looking to learn how And I'm thinking of what you're saying, it A The world is collapsing and I'm saying, I said But it's, he, he just seems so overwhelmed that he's gotten away from doing that It's so important, even more than that And I think James and I have talked about this, about being with God all the time All the time, everything you're doing throughout the day, Being with God in the presence of God and letting God be in your presence all day long And people say, well, that'll be difficult to do

  7. 14:49

    I'm working with now and The word of We allow our imagination to run wild, all of the time So if you would actually use it to be like, you know what, I'm gonna take a moment, I'm gonna close my And I'm just going to imagine that Jesus is with me So why do we go with Instead of go with the reality that God is with us It's not just that it's also, you know, we, we say this at the beginning of the podcast, In, in, you know, in the fostering and the reading of the word and that's so vital and important or we bring up this five, five, Which is a very fancy theological term on how to properly read and interpret the Bible. There are two main categories. It

  8. 17:35

    I mean, does that mean that they have to have faith that there's going to flow? You better believe it. Well, cause he wasn. He wasn't, he wasn't, he wasn't anywhere was he? No sales. He wouldn't be true because there was no land there anyways. Right. So I started reading all these ideas in my imagination. Am I thinking in my wrong thinking, my wrong thinking. So just because it doesn't say it doesn't say the So as you read the Bible minutes. You can get lost in yourself. You could, you could think that you're That's true. You're standing or you're exercising, maybe you're listening to it while you're in the shower or in the car or whatever. You have to be aware of what it is that you're reading and not get caught up in these ideas ways a joy that's unspeakable And if you guys haven't, if you've never had that moment of joy, unspeakable, I just pray Lord God right now.

  9. 20:02

    He says, he says he. Jesus and he's writing in the sand. Yeah. I picture myself in the crowd. What would I be doing? Am I one of the people that are going to throw stones at her? Am Am I that woman that committed adultery that committed sin enough that that they're committed adultery, that committed sin enough that they're committed adultery What am I going to do? And then am I there? A lot of times I envision myself and Jesus looking at me. There's no one here to cast the first stone. You have to put yourself in there. You have to be part of that. You have to know what was going on then. Yeah. I mean, I mean more, more so this simple thing, right? When Jesus says, if your eye causes you to sin, then pluck it out. It's hyper Or he says, if your hand causes you to sin. How come all come all that I know, including myself. Why do I got two eyes and two hands? Yeah. So I mean, it's like it's like if you're going to if you're going to pretend and wield the Bible in such a way that it actually causes you to stumble and sin. What you just

  10. 22:23

    Take Noah to build this ark. Hundred years. Hundred and twenty years. One. Be obedient to whatever he wants you to do. And that's what we're talking about. You mentioned. The hundred years and I had been thinking about that last night. , whatever Over a hundred years because as you just said, James, he could have been wanting to do something else. Let me go, go out with the guys. Let me do this. God said, do this. I'm doing this up to him and his friends are saying. What are you doing? 20 years, 30 years, he goes, God told me to do this and I'm going to do it. I'm going to obey. He stayed obedient for a hundred plus years. Think about it. Yeah. Why did Hebrews, why did they reference the Hall of Faith. Since we are surrounded by such a cloud of witnesses, let us strip weight. That slows us down. Yeah. We can read it. We can see the people that have been there for 120 years and know that we can get through. Another day. Exactly. And that was my point originally, right? Because you know, Noah was walking with God, but we have and we whine and and complain and struggle. We You know, we have a faith or a minute of faith. And then the next minute we're wallowing in our own self-loathing and we're worried about what tomorrow is going to bring. And that's what's so annoying and frustrating to me is that I know these stories.

  11. 25:20

    I read these stories., men and women in the Bible that didn't have what we have. We just in our. There's just so much noise. Right. And there's so there's. So much stuff that's trying to pull us away. Not necessarily away from what we think they're pulling us away from, but it just pulling us away. We're just, you know, we pick up our phones. We turn on the TV. We we, we do something, something other than getting into the Bible. Bible Again it's like, you know, it's like learning and is lifting or you took you know, you didn't start off but it took lots of time. You're so strict. There's nothing, nothing different here. Whatever it might look like. Instant gratification is called in. And there was a there's a verse. I don't know exactly where the verse is. Maybe nine and ten. Chapter six, nine and ten. But said that Noah was perfect perfect in his generation. And can we be perfect? No, Noah wasn't sinless. He was blameless. He was perfect generation. And what he did, if we remember, why, why the ark was built. And why Noah and his family were the only ones on it is because what we're talking about in the world today, Daryl. in the genetic pool of mankind. And apparently he succeeded pretty darn good back then. Because everybody, God was, God was so fed up. He said, I'm sorry that I created mankind. He was up until he, you know, he sees no one. He decides to save him. But, you know, Noah, purity, at least if we want to translate that, purity in. In his genetic profile. . And, God saw that.

  12. 27:38

    Why? Why Noah? Why? Why was he obedient? And why can't we be obedient to God? . Why, going back to what you you're saying, Daryl. Why can't we be obedient to God then? Noah, you mentioned the hall of faith. Do we have faith like these hall of faith people? One of the things that, you know, before we opened the podcast, one of the things I prayed for was just, I'm always really thankful to meet with the guys because there's always a bunch of wisdom that we get to really marinate in and just so much that I'm just not aware of and we get to really sharpen our tools. And Dave, one thing I've always picked up from you is like you really slow down when you read the scriptures, right? Right? Like one verse, two verses. It might take you five minutes. How do we block out all the noise and rushing so that way. we can have more than that? And I'm going to land this here. Genesis 8, verse 1. And we have to stop thinking with this instant reality for this one moment, please. Let's read this slowly. But God remembered Noah. And the animals. I have to pause, right? For dramatic effect. I have to make sure that you guys are paying attention to those words. And that we're listening to those words. And all the wild animals and livestock that were there with him in the ark. And he sent out the earth and the waters receded.

  13. 29:46

    And I want to carry on in verse 6. After 40 days. I'm going to pause again. 40 days was nothing for him. What is 40 days for us? In eternity. What is 40 days for me? Month. Month and month and month and month. I have to pray like God help me get out of my own way, please. Because 40 days seems like so far to read. Let's read that again in chapter 8, verse 6. He waited seven more days, sent it out again. When the dove returned to him in the the evening, there on its be. Was a freshly plucked olive leaf. Then Noah. water had receded from the earth. He waited seven more days. And I'm just going to stop there for Because he didn't have a steering wheel, right? Oh, I don't. Right. Yeah, I would say this ties back into It's like we live in the like to blow across and it stopped. It stopped.

  14. 32:36

    and trying to unpack. What are the authors actually trying to say? So, was it a wind? Is the Holy Spirit just wind? And he brought me around men like you guys, Lord have mercy on us all, right? It's like if you've ever watched like, you know, like a professional tennis match, it's like you send the ball and hopefully they rally and they send it back. And what you end up doing is you get a more richer, fuller, deeper is actually quite beautiful. That, you know, when you read in Proverbs, iron sharpens iron. So one man may sharpen another. You really start to experience that when you get out of your own way, Coram Deo. You make room for God as your teacher and you let him navigate the ship, right? And he pulls you around other believers into a Bible study where you can then be built up and edify glory for the works, you know, beautiful thing.

  15. 34:22

    You're fired. No, I'm not having a steering wheel. If we think about it, we said he built it without any power tools. He was 599 or 600 years old, according to the text. He didn't have anything to build it with other hand tools. And he didn't have anything tools and he didn't have anything to guide it with. Fortunately, it wasn't, you know, a cruise. He didn't have a sextant. I didn't have like a Stanley measuring tape or something. Stanley. This episode brought to you by Stanley measuring tapes. No, but it's like God's like, do these cubits. Okay. What is a cubit? Okay. I guess this is about a cubit. And it's like, like, what does he hold up a stick? You know what it made me think of? I mean, I, I don't have have a TV now, but I used to when I was my ex watch those, those home improvement shows, the property brothers, homes on homes. I'm thinking, okay. season one, Noah is told to build the ark, build me an ark. And then Noah's, he's just about finished with season two. Noah has to get all the animals. I mean, can you imagine this? It would make a great reality show. Anyone who has ever done home improvements or like worked on your own car or something like that. You know, you, you look like, oh, this job should take roughly four to six hours or something like that.

  16. 36:54

    Twelve hours later, three trips to the auto zone, which is a really good point because we're talking about God to build an arc. But sometimes we start projects like, oh, I'm going to put a new kitchen cabinet or something. And do we finish it right? It just sits idle for, for however long. Did my wife just call you and tell you? Now, you know what? God's like, can I tell you to put those granite countertops in the arc? I feel like this I feel. I feel like. I feel like this is what God is trying to tell people that are listening Like you have no steering wheel. It will start to shift and it will start to go in the right direction. Take them with you. Take them with you. That's what I'm saying in control You, you know, you and God are like best friends, right? You know, I'm just the lowly listener of the podcast. I am so annoying. Sometimes I'm like, you're back. I've been trying to practice every. Every morning getting up instead of like reaching for my phone or I've I've been trying to practice looking up to God and just saying, God, what do you have for me? And then you hear your wife say, So that's something I'm trying to grab this.

  17. 39:07

    . And then you're just like, well, what does that mean? And then he gives you the definition of what that means. Your neighbor is the person you least expect or the person that's your enemy, right? Or, or for example, because I was on that journey for a number of years. Here I am, Lord. You know, what would you have me do? And, you know, I remember like being so on fire for God and I was willing to meet every challenge head on. And, and he was just like, read the Bible. I'm like, okay. It's like, or it's like, go hang out with them. And then you, you just like take their burdens. Like you share in their burdens. Like it says, and thus fulfill the law of Christ. It says in the New Testament, share in one another's burdens. Who wants to go do that? Like you just have somebody's like, you know, they just, like, throw on you all all of their burdens. But that's what God wants us to do is sometimes just humbly come alongside somebody and be with them, be with them, be with them, be with them, be with them, be with them, be with them. And then you get to be the, the salt and the light or the reflection of Christ some to them and give them some hope. And you didn't need to say anything. You didn't need to do anything. drastically different amounts of money. Thank God, for me. But the idea was, is we were just it was a chance to be obedient. So when it says that like his love language so to speak, is like, is obedience in the Bible. Right? Jesus says, why do you call me why do you call me and not do what I say? If you love me, you'll keep my commands. Those are two. So that, that's another example. Here I am, Lord send me or what would you have me do Other times it's the complete opposite of being extremely active or hyperactive in the kingdom. I'm thinking that day, it's like, okay. I'm going to be the hands and feet of the Lord. And he says, I just want you to rest. What? What do I do now? It's just like, he's just like, just rest. It's like, okay. And it's very, it's very interesting about how everybody measuring tapes.

Original show notes

Featuring: Judah Thomas, David LaManna, Lenny Salgado, Johnny V., James Gowell and DJ Nicholson.

Edited by: Tim Nicholson

Coram Deo: Living in the Presence of God.

Are the stories of Genesis fact or fiction? This week on Thriving in the Word, we continue our foundational journey through Genesis 1–11 with Week 8 of our study.

We kick off the episode by diving back into the life of Noah as David shares five fascinating archaeological facts about the Ark—challenging us to consider what it truly means to believe without seeing.

Of course, it wouldn't be our show without a bit of humor; James brings a hilarious "update" from The Babylon Bee confirming that Noah allegedly made 977 frantic trips to Home Depot to get the job done!

From there, we transition into a powerful deep dive into our episode title: Coram Deo—a Latin phrase meaning "in the presence of God." We unpack the profound spiritual importance of cultivating intentional, distraction-free alone time with our Creator and what it looks like to live every moment before His face.

Tune in for a perfect blend of history, humor, and deep spiritual truth!

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Grab your Bible, pull up a seat, and join our table as we slow down to study Scripture book by book, verse by verse. Discover how God patiently calls, equips, and transforms even the most reluctant servants for His glory.

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